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Him, him or her -- even going so far to subpoena their kids phone record -- because you know maybe they might be using their kids phone to circumvent investigative efforts. in my memory, i've tried racking my brain since this news came out, i don't recall anything like that ever happening before. for a lawyer, after lawyer, under barr, under sessions, to think this was okay, i believe puts them outside the scope of their employment. i think they may be personally liable because they were so outside their regulations, they could be personally liable. what does metadata mean? they're not getting...

Out about this, and the reason why they broke their own rules is because the gag order wasn't renewed by the current justice department, and so apple was free to go ahead and tell these members what had been happening. >> jeremy bash, let's put your lawyer hat on and pick up on one of the points frank just made. put this in context, how dangerous was doj, under donald trump, and can anybody be prosecuted for what we've just learned about? >> well, this was an abuse of power, planned simple. there is absolutely no basis for the trump justice department to investigate democrats who are duty boun...

Made up that part of his resume entirely. yeah. wow, what a difference. transitions between really different presidents are hard, and in some of these agencies, it must be like night and day. but even with that stark contrast everywhere, imagine you're at the justice department right now. i mean from the last justice department to this one, just today we learned that before trump left office, his attorney general, william barr, secretly obtained phone records from longtime pentagon correspondent barbara starr at cnn. we've recently learned that under barr, they did that to three "washington po...

Bill barr got correspondent from barbara starr at cnn. we recently learned that under barr, they did that two to washington reporters in russia as well. the justin department is now no longer doing that. and they are letting it be known, that the last justice department did this, and it was all approved under bill barr, and not under the current administration. but they have to let that information be known, now and they have to clean up after it. these organizations are obviously very angry that it happened. we also learned that under bill barr, the justice department subpoenaed twitter to tr...

It must be like night and day. but even with that stark contrast everywhere, imagine you're at the justice department right now. i mean from the last justice department to this one, just today we learned that before trump left office, his attorney general, william barr, secretly obtained phone records from longtime pentagon correspondent barbara starr at cnn. we've recently learned that under barr, they did that to three "washington post" reporters who had been reporting on trump in russia as well. the justice department now is no longer doing that, and they're letting it be known that the las...