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Anything, to try to address the plight of, at the very least, the small section that qualifies as the so-called dreamers under daca, much less the 11 million here illegally. these bills are to equip some of thyssen dangered reese en dange. none of these bills will become law. >> as a moral and religious basis, you're right. this does not have to happen. as a political matter, i want to drive this home. it's also political suicide. doed republicans not understand separating families at the border will get them killed? >> i don't think they do. the headlines coming out of this, while damaging to...

A new republican president who is saying, i see the problems that we have, but i'm still going to put more kids in that program and i'm going separate them from their parents because their parents broke the law. now, there are people of course that support that because they say well if these parents were committing murder or shoplifting and had to go to jail, they wouldn't be able to be with their kids. that's the trump administration's argument for why they should be separated from their parents and there are people who believe that. >> there's the deterrent factor too. when we talk about imm...

>> all right. what's your reaction to that, congressman? >> just lunacy. this president had many opportunities to deal with us. there were many deals given to him, even funding his stupid border wall, which i was against, but it was part of a deal. at the end of the day, he just did not know how to deal. he has no control over his own staff. chief of staff john kelly has zero -- and steve miller is an outright xenophobe. the president needs to figure out what he wants then make a deal. the biggest problem we have is trump. >> he says he is willing to allow 1.8 million dreamers, including a mil...

Fabricating documents or situations to help out the case of the president. he's not at all been forthright, and he essentially is the head of, i would say, the head of a cover-up, at least occurring here in congress. >> cover-up is a strong word, but let me get to other issues while i have you. last hour, president trump addressed the latino coalition summit here in washington. he said he's ready for a deal on the so-called dreamers under daca, the deferred action he sa. >> we're trying to have a dac ark victory for everybody, by the way. the democrats are nowhere to be found. they're nowhere ...

And why you're making this order. >> yeah. it has nothing to do with amnesty. you know, when we talk about daca, we talk about the wall, these are real people, right? new york we have close to 50,000 people who are under the daca regulation law, whatever you want to call it. and they're living their lives in total uncertainty. each under daca they would have to recertify every two years. this is pressing upon them. my executive order says state agencies are not going to inquire about immigration status. first of all, it's not a state responsibility, it's a federal responsibility. second of all...