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Those people. but of course at the time, paul manafort was the chair of donald trump's campaign. he was a very important person connected to everyone. >> yeah. the former fbi director james comey, who is now a witness in the mueller investigation, weighed in today on the acting attorney general, matt whisker, josh. i want you to listen to this. >> to what extent do you think he can derail the special investigation? >> i think it's -- it's a worry, but to my mind, not a serious worry. he may not be the sharpest knife in our drawer, but he can see his future and knows that if he acted in an extr...

Chair of donald trump's campaign. he was a very important person connected to everyone. >> the former fbi director, james comey, who is now a witness in the mule ter investigation weighed in today on the acting attorney general matt whitaker. josh, he want you to listen to this. >> to what extent do you think he can derail the special investigation? >> i think it's a worry but to my mind, not a serious worry. he may not be the sharpest knife in our drawer but he can see his future and knows if he acted in an extra legal way, he will go down in history for the wrong reasons. i'm sure he doesn't...

Trump's team and manafort's team are not privileged. those are communications that mueller could obtain. >> was he essentially the president's spy? >> it seems so based upon the reporting that we've seen. essentially what he was doing was getting information from mueller's team when they were asking him questions and assuming that -- they were assuming because that's what manafort said, and what him and his lawyer agreed, that they were on the government's team and that they were agreeing to cooperate and assist mueller in any way. and then they were taking that information and providing it to...

They set their own personal judgments about trump and put their finger on the scale and thumb of the scale of the clinton email investigation and very aggressively pursued the trump investigation or the russia investigation. the mantra of the f.b.i. you go in with blinders and integrity and conduct a thorough, objective investigation. none of which happened in either case here. >> bill: if you believe that, then other people within the f.b.i. probably believe it as well. would you agree with that? and if that is the case, how do you think your opinion affects the mueller matter? is this whole ...

Right? on some level, who cares if the judge is kind of a jerk, which he kind of is. if it makes a difference with the jury, i think that is a concern that mueller's prosecutors have. in effect, we're looking at the difference between the mueller investigation and the trump approach on all pr all of the time. in the end, the court system relies on standards of evidence and fact. the case against manafort is devastating, it portrays a correct amount of lifestyle, people earn a couple hundred n dollars a month. billions more from a ukrainian o oligarchs. >> you know in your piece that the presid...