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53 million uninsured because medicaid expansion and the subsidies will be eliminated. when you stretch it out to ten years. this is done by the cbo, that's why it goes out to ten years. 58 million uninsured people and compared that to the 57 million who were there before obamacare came into place. look at premiums. this is what everybody talks about. a bit misleading because things cover different things. but premiums as they are now would go up 20 to 25% in year one. 50% in year two. and would nearly double by 2026. for those thinking that your premiums will go down, this is for people in the...

Grow up with them and they think it's weird. they're right. weird stuff. >> no one grew up with them because they're brand-new. >> you're right. brand-new rules. not sure they make sense. hans, don't go far. you and i need to talk about the other big story of the day, russia, in a little bit. i'll come back to you. i want to take a quick look back at republican opposition to the affordable care act. after obamacare was passed in march of 2010, that's the signing ceremony, republicans almost immediately started their campaign against the law. for the past seven years, republicans have been pr...

Congressman carter voted for the house version back in may. congressman, good to see you. what on earth happened here? you control the house and you control the senate and this is the fifth or sixth generation of a bill that you guys have been promising since 2010 to repeal and replace. how come this can't get done? >> well, obviously, right now we're struggling with the replacement bill. so, what we need to do now is just repeal obamacare. this failed experiment, if you will, that is imploding every day. we need to repeal it and then we need to work with our colleagues and work in a bipartisa...

Hutchinson. thank you very much for joining us. you weren't a big fan of the house version of this bill. how do you feel about the senate's? >> well, there's a consensus we have to change from the status quo, both in terms of medicaid but also in terms of access under obamacare. the senate is doing the right thing by pursuing this initiative, trying to get a consensus. at my suggestion and other governors, they have changed a number of portions of it in the revised bill that i think is for flexibility -- >> which portions snoo well, specifically they gave us pay block grant on the expanded med...

Because it's going to send us back to the days where the insurance system wasn't broad base based. >> steven, when people at home hear what austin just said about the opposition to it, seemingly in the medical community from a wide spectrum, should that mean something to them? >> well, no, look, i disagree with austin's analysis here. before obamacare took effect, 90% of americans did have insurance, and the vast majority of them were, as you know, were happy with insurance. the worry was this is why obama said, if you like your plan, you'll be able to keep it. if you like your doctor, you'll ...