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When donald trump's dad was coming up in the '30s and the '40s, it was a profoundly corrupt business. you had to pay off the unions. a lot of what you purchased had a big markup because you were also paying off people there. politicians were greased. donald's father actually went around and gave federal housing authority people television sets and cash. so this was the way it was back then but it wasn't the way it was by the time donald got into it in the 1970s and '80s. it was starting to be cleaned up. the corruption in all of the big rust belt cities was being squeezed out of real estate de...

Practice going on for years. so i think congressman schiff is absolutely right. there's a red line they should march across and deploy the troops in all directions. >> wow. david, did you want to respond to that? i had a question for you here, but i know you wanted to respond. >> well, i think michael's exactly right about that. and let's remember two important things about trump tower. right underneath donald's triplex there was a full-blown gambling operation that ran for years run by russian gangsters until the fbi shut it down. and donald was what, what? there's gambling going on in my bui...

>> well, i think michael's exactly right about that. and let's remember two important things about trump tower. right underneath donald's triplex there was a full-blown gambling operation that ran for years run by russian gangsters until the fbi shut it down. and donald was what, what? there's gambling going on in my building? and the other was when donald's close business associate for whom he did favors, the international cocaine smuggler joe wexelbaum, got out of jail he didn't have money to pay his federal fine. i think it was $30,000. but somehow ended up living in a multimillion-dollar t...

Good to have you on. michael, there are now so many questions into president trump. you say that trump believed that the real estate business in new york was corrupt and deceptive and he acted accordingly. explain. >> right. he did believe it was and he did act accordingly. when donald trump's dad was coming up in the '30s and the '40s, it was a profoundly corrupt business. you had to pay off the unions. a lot of what you purchased had a big markup because you were also paying off people there. politicians were greased. donald's father actually went around and gave federal housing authority pe...