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To why we're here and what we'd like to see happen in order to move us forward. this is what we get in return. i think they should spend more time on actually concentrating the problem in wisconsin as opposed to you wasting time coming up with resolution after resolution that doesn't make any difference. >> welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle is with us along with pat buchanan in washington. and now with us at the table, the man who's going to challenge our union representative, mike barnicle. former ge ceo and chairman jack welch. the author of the book "winning." and was named deser...

This guy is not doing well with his union bashing. >> i think what that poll and other polls show that independents and even some republicans who were supporting walker i think are abandoning him and are looking at this fight between what looks like union busting and deficit cutting and having second thoughts. and i think this is the new generation of reagan democrats. remember union member -- ronald reagan appealed to those union members. now their sons and daughters are moderate republican type, but they don't want the union bashing. >> despite the fact some people on the left like to argue ...

Beyond wisconsin's borders, governors are split over the labor standoff. cnn's senior political reporter ed henry is here with more. >> reporter: republican rick scott of florida was on the show and basically saying that he was trying to reframe it and say this is about treating taxpayers fairly, about treating public employees fairly. maybe not having a sharpened edge as scott walker has had in wisconsin and democratic governor martin o'malley also on "american morning" really kind of jumped on that and says he believes this is about union bashing and that republicans like rick scott are runn...

Maryland, we're asking our public employees to come to the table and to make adjustments and make additional payments to the pension systems. but this goes beyond that, which is why several republican governors, i think, including governor scott are distancing themselves from the governor of wisconsin. this is about union bashing, this is about eliminating the unions. this is about taking advantage of this crisis in joblessness in our country in order to destroy public employees unions. i don't think it's the way we get things done. and i'm glad that some republican governors are distancing th...

They don't want the union bashing. >> some people on the left like to argue and i don't think they're ever thinking it through, josh, most republicans are not rich people. they may serve the interests and their votes patterns of rich people, they may vote for trickle down economics, but many are cloth cut republicans. my parents were. i know all about it. regular million dolla regular middle class people. did they venture into grabbing those middle of the road reagan democrats to vote for them and now they realize they didn't vote for this point of view. >> that's exactly right. it's a classic...