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Everybody knows who donald trump is. we got to let him know who we are, man. even his supporters know who he is, they have no illusions about the basic fundamental character traits. i mean, it's -- and i think -- i think sometimes he thinks that we talk about this thing, we talk about other people like we're being suckers, like take care of yourself, i mean, i don't know. we need to let him know that, you know, we choose hope over fear, you know. unity over division. and maybe most importantly, truth over lies. but you got to make sure that, not because i'm running, we got to make sure that th...

We got to let him know who we are, man. even his supporters know who he his. and i think -- i think sometimes he thinks that we talk about this thing that we talk about other people, like we're being suckers. take care of yourself. i don't know. i don't -- we let him know that we choose hope over fear, you know? unity over division. and maybe most importantly, truth over lies. it's a -- it's -- but you got to make sure that -- not because i'm running. we got to make sure that the american people understand whoever you're trying to lead,

Amazing how it's -- everybody knows who donald trump is. we got to let him know who we are. even his supporters know who he is. they have no illusions about the basic fundamental character traits. i mean, it's -- and i think sometimes he thinks that we talk about this thing that we talk about other people like we're being suckers. take care of yourself. i don't know. i don't -- we let him know that we choose hope over fear, you know? unity over division. and maybe most importantly, truth over lies. it's a -- it's -- but you got to make sure that -- not because

With trump and not be overshadowed simply by his presence before he even opens his mouth. >> what do you say to that, ron? >> you know, bring it on. i mean, i think that there were -- i'm obviously supporter of joe biden. i'd love to see biden against donald trump. but there were many many people on the stanl both nights mo would really take it to donald trump. i mean and as the vice president said in his remarks at the debate, you know, he stands for truth over lies and unity over division. that's the choice we are going to put any democrat will put to donald trump in 2020. and i do -- i am v...

Character. it's a moment for someone who can bring us together. it's a moment for joe biden. >> i don't mind confessing my sentimentalism about this country. the country needs a good fight because a great country deserves a strong fight for who gets to lead it. what i liked about the message in philly on saturday from both bidens is that those who love this country need to restore it's historic values of unity and leadership. >> we choose hope over fear, truth over lies, and, yes, unity over division. >> we need a president who makes us proud as americans. that's why this 2020 election is all ...