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Ohio and was also contacted by tim coe, the son of famous doug coe who expressed interest in talking about my objections and trying to reassure me. i found it interesting that he would contact me if there is no relationship at all. >> i hear your implication there. the reverend eric williams -- sorry. go ahead. >> so i invited him to a conversation, but a public conversation and made several attempts to invite him to that. and ultimately he turned me down wanting only a private conversation rather than one that could have some accountability. >> so he -- just to be clear, i'm sorry i interrupt...

There. >> so i i vieted him to a -- invited him to a public conversation and made several attempts to invite him to that. ultimately he turned me down wanting a private conversation rather than wanting one with accountability. >> i'm sorry i interrupted you there. he offered to get in touch and talk to you about c street even as the family denies having anything to do with c. street but he only wanted the conversation between the two of you without anyone else there. >> that's right. they want a private, confidential, unreportable conversation. >> we'll reach out the to mr. coe now that we kno...