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Told that lie, they're now surprised that donald trump has been able to really take the lead by talking about exactly what they've been talking about for years. so i'm not surprised that he's leading, other republican leaders told this lie first, and he is now the beneficiary of it. >> what's the lie? >> what's the lie? there are people who are coming to our country illegal who are committing crimes. there are many that are not committing crimes. there are tons of illegals who are committing crimes. ask katie steinle's family how she feels about that, that's not a lie, that's a truth. >> first...

Tor which is primarily in the middle of arizona and mexico, we -- we have an unsecure border. we all know that. that's the gateway. i believe we would rely on our experts, the people that know what's going on, law enforcement that is dealing with it, and the people that live there. that's what i would rely on. it's just a simple matter. we can get operational control because we've done it in other places, but for whatever the reason is, the federal government doesn't step up and secure the tucson sector. >> jenna: one of the things we've heard going back a couple of years, the department of ho...