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So the 13 bots and russian trolls, they did -- they did things that -- that should have been done -- during the election. >> more serious than bots. >> there is no nexus between this campaign and what -- >> that we know of. >> they did bad things -- everyone is entitled to the prevention of innocence and the manafort indictment is for stuff done years ago before the campaign took place. the papadapoulos lying to the fbi about an interview, some of the other things are tangential -- >> the trump campaign were lying about connections with russia? >> he lied about -- >> a conversation with russia...

About the president. you recall when he mocked a reporter with a disability. >> yep. >> the poor guy, you got to see this guy. ah, i don't know what i said. i don't remember -- >> and then all of the tweets. he once compared unfavorably in a re tweet the looks of senate ted cruz's wife to his own and tweeted weird senator rand paul of kentucky reminds me of a spoiled brat without a properly functioning brain. these are the cleaner ones. they get worse. these are the nice ones so people wouldn't get too upset. you would admit that -- these get nasty. >> the tweets -- look, i'm not going to defe...

>> trump. >> the mob takes the fifth. if you are innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment? >> when you have your staff taking the fifth amendment, taking the fifth -- so they're not prosecuted -- i think it is disgraceful. >> any response, phil? and you think it looks fishy if you take the fifth. >> of course it does. but this is a setup all along. the president is dumb but he's not stupid. this is a setup from day one and the strategy is make us the victim. this is a hoax, this is a search for something that didn't happen, despite the fact we have 13 russian indictments and multiple p...

Campaign? a big flat nothing burger at the end here. >> we'll see. yes, kirsten. >> i can't speak for phil, but i think the point is this all has been a set-up. the reason that donald trump does all of this is to set up for something down the road. where all of the lying isn't just for fun. it is to create chaos and to make people not trust anybody. and to tear down institutions and make people think can we trust the fbi and trust other people and -- and no, and it is so confusing, i think that is what we're dealing with. >> so president trump this morning vented his feelings on twitter about ...