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As we head into the new year and try to make sense of the president's lawyer's contradicting statements, the big question still looms. will the special counsel end up subpoenaing the president? joining us, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, cynthia, a former federal prosecutor and clint watts, a former special agent with the fbi. all are msnbc contributors. cynthia, i'm going to start with you. will there be a subpoena for donald trump? >> well, that's an interesting question. because we make this determination, this differentiation between a subject and a target. if the president is a target o...

President's lawyer, sounding adamant that his client will not answer more questions from the special counsel. with just hours later, he didn't seem so sure. asked by the daily beast if it is his understanding that mueller is still looking to interview trump over the phone or in person, giuliani reiterated that it hasn't been formally closed yet, and that the loop hasn't been closed. so which one is it? as we head into the new year and try to make sense of the president's lawyer's contradicting statements, the big question still looms. will the special counsel end up subpoenaing the president? ...