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A lot of folks here in massachusetts happy that this first phase is over. there is no capital punishment in the state system here. >> but it is a federal trial of course. attorney general eric holder has given this jury the ability to find -- to punish him by the death penalty. thank you for your time. thanks for the update ron. let me bring in john henry brown, who has represented a number of defendants in high profile cases, including serial killer ted bundy. as someone who is familiar with the strategy here do you think the defense was expecting guilty across the board and does that suggest...

Should be treated as such. >> i want to bring in ron and dot. dot, i know you're in south carolina. what's been the response in the community in the hours since this video first surfaced? >> first, it's been real sadness. it's been shock, and it's awfully -- almost disbelief. the community is pretty upset about this and rightly so. i do want to pause sympathy for the family and the brown family and the scott family now. this community is now torn apart because of what we have been alleging all along in police behavior that without evidence such as a video, it goes unchecked. >> beyond the hein...