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upstairs. >> friday, friday. >> have a good show, alex. >> the very bad news for donald trump is that rudy giuliani has finally, today, learned to talk like a lawyer again. today, for the first time in years, rudy giuliani did not sound like a hallucinating mad man when he walked into the fulton county courthouse in georgia to testify to a grand jury. he did not sound like someone willing to tell any lie for donald trump. he didn't sound like someone ready to take any legal risks for donald trump. not anymore. not now that he has been formally declared a target of the grand jury's cr...

Look like hacks. now it is just kind of a feeding frenzy of choose your own judicial ending. everybody looks partisan. and that is so destructive for the legitimacy of the court. >> well, they also look cruel. i mean, hacks for me would be the kind of description of what these judges are doing. and people in the audience should understand that in an appeals court, the judges never see witnesses. an appeals court never hears this girl's voice. they never see her face. they do not know anything about her. they are looking at paper. and they are making this decision about her life. and they have ...