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Fired as a result. we've known it for over a year. when you have elizabeth warren say it's rigged. she's going run for president in 2 2020. there's political motivation there, too. we need to talk about what we're going to do moving forward. right now no one is focussing on the division in the party. they're focussed on the division on the other side. on the democratic side, we're doing things that are problematic. we raised half as much as the rnc. tom perez should get credit for taking steps to get more credit for that. however, we also can't kill ourselves through litmus tests. that's not a...

Concerned about the death, the assassination, if you will, of the two police officers. >> it's an interesting position. some people feel like -- they don't feel like protesting, necessarily, is a way of disrespecting those families but we know the head of the naacp, that this is a way to exercise judgment and discretion and compassion and that means perhaps putting those protest signs down for a bit. but there are peaceful protests and they say this does not have to be something that is mutually exclusive. >> i agree. i just think that the symbolism of not protesting now and then resuming afte...