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There is no takeover. it's insurance. we heard in 2009, there were death panels. everybody agrees now that was a big lie. just like government takeover of health care is a big non. the nonpartisan, bipartisan congressional budget office says it's going to cost us $230 billion the first decade. and $1.2 trillion thereafter. and they say well, they can have their opinion. those are facts. those are nonpartisan facts of people we hire to give us the truth. and they don't like the truth so they summarily dismiss it. they say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie. just like gerbles. ...

The biggest lie is the government takeover of health care. there is no takeover. it's insurance. we heard in 2009, there were death panels. everybody agrees now that was a big lie. just like government takeover of health care is a big non. the nonpartisan, bipartisan congressional budget office says it's going to cost us $230 billion the first decade. and $1.2 trillion thereafter. and they say well, they can have their opinion. those are facts. those are nonpartisan facts of people we hire to give us the truth. and they don't like the truth so they summarily dismiss it. they say it's a governm...

Out of budget? they're going out and borrowing this money. this is why we're saying let's put a moratorium on. i don't think the public is going to hold us accountable. >> you're a blue dog democrat, correct? >> that's correct. >> i went to the web site. there are 15, blueprint for fiscal reform. put a lid on federal spending, cut programming. yet you want more pork, you want $124 million. how can you call yourself a blue dog democrat and look for more pork project as soon as. >> i absolutely am a blue dog democrat. let's talk about finding real savings in our budget. for example, why are we i...