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Fathers intended in the texts of the constitution. >> i always pointed to hamilton's words. at its core, impeachment is reserved for a president or a government official who abuses the public trust and who violates their oath of office and you know we get distracted steph, by trying to fit around pegged into a square hall because we open up a current u.s. code which has thousands of laws and we try to cram the president's kconduct precisely into the elements of some crime that's articulated in the u.s. code. guess what, that code did not exist. at the time the framers opted more high crimes an...

There are no controls. plus, we have heard all week long in relation to ukraine, senior members of the administration, including hand-picked people by donald trump, say i didn't feel comfortable, but the president told me -- >> -- to do it. >> so, what is happening here with mick mulvaney? because he was also part of that story. >> and quickly just to stay with you for a moment. our friend ellie had a great piece on abovethelaw.com, where he talks about the fact that it's more than just the emoluments clause with this doral situation. he reprints from title 48 of the u.s. code, and it says "ex...

Becomes everything. and you know, the priestifrustr about the u.s. code, what is a purpose, and they reference you to improper purpose, that doesn't make much more sense, but here is why, if the president had a legitimate reason to ask for an investigation by ukraine, it is a proper purpose. >> let me follow-up quickly about that point. you are saying it is okay for the president to conduct foreign affairs as part of the defense strategy but it is hard to know this, would he have called for this investigation if joe biden didn't run for president in 2020, doesn't that undermine the effect that...

Criminally speaking? >> first, the statute i'm referring to, title 18 of the u.s. code, actually says it could be direct or indirect. so alex, if i've got the ability to give you a ton of cash, and you know that, and i say, alex, i need you to do me a personal favor -- you can infer that that favor is tied to me giving you that cash. and it doesn't have to be direct. and plenty of public officials throughout the united states have been convicted for corruption simply because of an indirect inference or implication. >> okay. i want to take a look at this. earlier, a former fbi double agent, nav...

Are not seeking asylum. a lot of them are undocumented immigrants, right? and you said recently that the reason you didn't want to repeal section 1325 was because you were concerned about human trafficking and drug trafficking. but let me tell you what, section 18 -- title 18 of the u.s. code, title 21 and title 22 already cover -- i think you should do your homework on this issue. if you did your homework on this issue you would know -- >> who as president would sign on to the 2015 nuclear deal as it was originally negotiated? that's -- all right. senator klobuchar, i'd like you to answer the...