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It, explain what that sounds like. start with the firing of james comey. what does mueller find in his obstruction report about the firing of comey? >> the firing of comey, which i was there for, it was alarming on the inside, it's mixed in terms of what he actually found in terms of whether it met the elements of the crime of obstruction as set forth in the u.s. code. so what he's left -- what we're left with at the end of the day is an assessment or a need for the congress of the united states to take a look at what mueller sets forth and assess whether that is acceptable or not, in a differ...

Of possibly committing a crime. florida republican matt gaetz tweeted this threat to michael cohen this afternoon. hey, michael cohen, do your wife and father-in-law know about your girlfriends? maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. i wonder if she'll remain faithful if you're in prison. she's about to learn a lot. it is a federal crime to threaten witnesses who are coming before a congressional committee. 18 u.s. code section 1505 says whoever krumtly or by threats or force or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs or impedes or endeavors to influence, ob...

We now know that it will surely be that, although there might be many worse days coming for the trump presidency after this testimony. president trump and his most fervent allies are apparently living in such abject fear of michael cohen's time that it has driven one of them to the point of possibly committing a crime. florida republican matt gaetz tweeted this threat to michael cohen this afternoon. hey, michael cohen, do your wife and father-in-law know about your girlfriends? maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. i wonder if she'll remain faithful if you're in prison. she's abou...

More importantly, members of congress and the public are, after all of this time and all of this money spent on this investigation. >> i mean, so you could be at a point, it sounds like, from what dana's saying, you're very close, but not there. who knows what you are, but you could conceivably be at a point where you're close to a criminal act, or maybe at a point where a lot of people felt you are, but they couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt and you'll go ahead and plop that into the political realm? >> i think that's right. and that's in part, as has been said tonight and by others, t...

Obstructing, where is the law on that? >> so an attempt. >> we're talking about really two separate things. one is, in doing this, did he break the law? did he violent the u.s. code in some form or fashion? i'm not going to sit here and, again, on the basis of an article that i haven't even read yet say that i could come to that legal conclusion. but when richard nixon was -- when articles of impeachment were drafted in connection with nixon's activities, the abuse of process articles of impeachment were not so much about his violating the u.s. code, they were about his manipulation of the off...