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Hope about that, but it seems like nothing came out of it. the some had thought vladimir putin was backing off about deunification of ukraine. ly -- they've been seeing some things that they think they'll receive concrete results in the next few days. how realistic do you think that is? >> you know, you don't want to rule out diplomacy. in fact, uts rlt a lot of people continue and just have it on the flat. >> reporter:s and it seems to me that's the point where vladimir

As long as they don't use the muscles themselves, uts-- missi themselves, they can be identified. >> how hard is it not to use a chemical weapon? >> this is the agency that tried to skill the skeetballs in 2013? if someone in the world should have, it dissipates quickly when you use it. it evaporate ds in the atmosphere so we creating who is responsible would have required having specters on the ground. the forensics would be very, very difficult and i think putin might be counting on that. if he does use chemicals in sort of a non-conventional way to