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Where to go, what to do. then they come back to civilian life and that structure isn't there anymore. for a good number of them, not all of them. but a good number of them it's hard to take. >> bill: last question for you. i don't know how you answer this or even if you can. did you find why the ravages of war are so debilitating to the mind when that structure is gone? >> i don't think you can say that -- well, you are exactly right but some of these people who we're losing didn't even see combat. >> bill: is that right? >> it's not just combat veterans who are taking their own lives. >> bill...

Are dependent on them for political donations. it makes no sense. i'm reminded of something that happened in my freshman term in congress. we passed a law that gave the secretary of the v.a. the ability to fire people because we had a series of scandals at the v.a. at the time i thought, wait, he doesn't already have that authority? [laughter] he doesn't have the authority to fire people? but it's true. and even with that authority, it's so hard to fire people because the union sues you. and how would that work in the private sector? you have to be able to fire employees that aren't performing...

Their damn lives. >> brian, you have my undivided attention. >> i don't need your undivided attention, i need attention of the v.a. >> joining us now, the director abby damaris corbin. just a window into the performance by john boyega, and if you're not familiar with the story, take us through a little bit the who he is, who this man is and what he was going through and what happened that day? >> sure. well first off, wow, watching that clip over again you could just feel the chills run down your back. john really, was the role of brian easily. and we met with brian's wife and he was a gentle ...

Mental health and the flaws at the v.a. as you saw them. as you dove into the story, what did you learn about the plight of our military veterans and what should our audience know? >> well, like brian, i stood in those lines. my dad is a navy veteran and those lines are very long. and i learned that through brian's story, i had a lot more empathy for what it means to acclimate back to civilian life. even though i lived through that with my dad. i had seen him go from being an athlete to being in a wheelchair. and i learned that the thing that breaks through, the thing that really matters is ho...

And the economy is blaming joe biden, democrats could talk about plummeting gas prices and massive job numbers, more than before covid, low unemployment, 3.5% and then also you look at what has been happening with the v.a. health care bill. you could come to us, thank you for the billboard here. >> it is a list. >> it is a massive list. but a lot of bipartisanship too which people presumed would never happen. people were mocking joe biden. i would say progressive democrats would tell biden, stop trying to do deals, and they said biden don't be stupid, stop trying to do deals with republicans. ...