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no, that was up to seven. i think that was seven. it might be my souvlaki talking, but yes. so it's a big debate with all of the parties who are fielding candidates in the election being represented. and as a result of that, what you have is of course, the sort of battle royale going on between labour and the tories, but you have an opportunity to hear from a much broader rainbow of political opinion. yeah, it means on the one hand it's less focused than when it was starmer versus sunak on tuesday, and it'sjust two people going head to head on a range of issues. it becomes a bit more...

But i think actually for some people watching, they'll have felt that the penny v ange moments were actually when it kind of came alive. yes. and they are both good communicators. they're both good communicators. they're both incredibly polished. 0h, they both have a look. have a look. and i don't mean that in a superficial way. but yeah, they both are strong personalities and, you know, they both, you know, know how to try and go for an audience. and i think, you know, ithink there might have been some people watching going, well, actually the two women going at it was a bit more interesting ...