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Illness. but in this case, what we have seen is it's migrated away from the fringe forums into really mainstream political rhetoric. so we have seen sitting governors, senators, the former president himself, repeating this and really not citing the facts about migrants being tested and quarantined at the border, which is the reality. >> so in your article, you said, and you're reiterating something here with the title, but you said blaming immigrants for the spread of covid-19 is a lazy but effective tactic that packs a double punch of disinformation. so does this ultimately boil down to just ...

Cause of all kinds of problems. and in this case, conveying disease or something dangerous to american citizens. so it really does blame liberal or elite policy, sitting elites for the situation that we're in instead of citizens who are making choices that don't work to mitigate the virus. >> yeah, something else speaking of that in the article, you also said the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol was a clear illustration of the serious threat that propaganda and disinformation pose to our democracy. so moving to covid-19, how might this covid-19 spread disinformation, how might it manifes...