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Taxpayers being in the hole to them is still a lot, a lot more than the administration is saying. they say, and we got a statement from them, that the charge that treasury's a.i.g. evaluation was done for political gain is pure nonsense, our calculations at a.i.g. are straightforward and we published this for all americans to see. why don't you see that? >>guest: that is a complete strowman argument. i am not accusing them of doing a calculation for political purposes. for them to say i am engaging in nonsense, this is a classic thing. you have been around long enough. if you cannot defend the...

Tarp and a.i.g. based on a complicated formula they went over with the auditors and was approved and six months ago that what projecting a $45 billion loss for a.i.g. second, october 5th, they changed the methodology, did a different way of calculating potential loss, and while they disclosed how they came to that number, they did not disclose the fact they changed the methodology. third, it is a fact they compared the old numbers and new without disclosing apples to oranges come -- compare sob had two different methods, and they did not show that the loss is the number they can use going forw...

No. there is no possible way. >> juan: bill clinton wants point is. this i'm surprised at. this i'm not. >> juan: bill clinton is saying that the investors should know what they are investing in. if they don't know what they're investing in, you can't blame goldman sachs. so they broke no law in the opinion of democrat bill clinton that. >> could end up being correct. my point on this is the whole sec investigation is a red herring. it's like going after al capone on a jay walking charge and giving him a $5 ticket. what we should be angry, all taxpayers should be upset about goldman for is the...