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Heather: how do you do that when there are not a lot of people speaking in favor of him which is why we hear him defending himself so much. >> the va specifically, that is a mission bigger than any one person or administration, 22 million americans, veterans that served this country and deserve something in return, i believe good people work at the va. i inherently don't trust bureaucrats in government but the people that take your blood pressure and and ask your healthcare every day need to know people believe in them so they will be motivated about their job and wants to do it. heather: i wa...

That in and of itself is an accomplishment signed by president trump that extends that program, that simplifies that program and make sure that the bills are paid for easily and medical records are shared between va and private health care providers. heather: congress developed the program back in 20114 after the deaths of several veterans when they were waiting at the va specifically in phoenix, arizona, so this program was to expire in august, now that won't happen, but what you were referencing, how do we make it actually work? >> well, it will take a different attitude and approach than we...