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What the va is talking about is a patchwork system where in a given case on a given day if they can't get an appoint they are allowed to go outside the system. that won't work because their entire record is in the va system. our veterans ought to be given the chance of getting all their care in a private system if they choose. bill: you have say the only way you think they will find a way to get out of this big mess is to go this route. do you still think that. >> i don't think the government can run the system. it's proven year after year it's not up to the task. they deliver the for federal ...

Veterans all over the country, as i have, if you look at independent surveys, the truth is that once people get in to the va system, the care that they are getting is pretty high quality. most veterans are pretty happy with the care that they're getting. the difficulty that we have right now is that as a result of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, in recent years, we have seen two million more veterans getting in to the system. and the question that we have to ask is, does the va have the resources, have the doctors, have the nurses, to provide timely, quality care to all of the people who are...

In to public demands releasing 47 pieces of data. they are pressuring officials to release the information for independent verification. the president praising veterans for their sacrifice in a ceremony on memorial day. so why is our va system hurting our heros. this as a call to private ties the va system to grow. steve sent any has the latest on this. >> the president did honor veterans on memorial day promising they will get the care they need and it may continue over president's healthcare. giving no specifics the president addressed the va scandal saying this. as we have been reminded i...

Drove up next to her. >> there was no one else around he looked directly at me and spot at me multiple times. even though i p hadn't ran yet he didn't hit me. >> af several shootouts with police roger was found dead inside his car. police say he killed himself. the president praising veterans for their sacrifice in a ceremony on memorial day. why is our va system hurting our heros? this as calls to privatize va hospital the continuing to grow. doug luzader from washington with the latest. >> the v ashisva issue isn't goy any time soon. it is casting a have aed toe over everything the preside...

>> the air force vet former advisor of u.s. veteran affairs under president bush. this has been going on a long time but now we are hearing about people dying as a result of the delays. you personally heard some of these stories. >> i served three secretaries my former boss was on your show secretary frinseki. what is shocking about this is the total ethical breakdown. it is not shocking there might be gaming of the system and that the wait times are there but the gaming has gone to the point to causing veteran's deaths. that is always an ethical line. my personal belief about the actual probl...