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But you look at the situation that you had with aufrsz holder, and you think is it such a good idea? here's the thing. one, i'm talking about first-time, nonviolent offenders. this is a very different story. this guy is 28 times arrested and somebody said there was no violence. there actually would you describe violence. there the guy's background. >> just arrests, though, not convictions. for violent imkroos. >> but you know what, how many times have you got toe black lives arrested. i think it was rnk. iny smnd shoild xiv been looking at this guy. and as the commissioner vad today, who is he...

But you look at the situation that you had with aufrsz holder, and you think is it such a good idea? here's the thing. one, i'm talking about first-time, nonviolent offenders. this is a very different story. this guy is 28 times arrested and somebody said there was no violence. there actually would you describe violence. there the guy's background. >> just arrests, though, not convictions. for violent imkroos. >> but you know what, how many times have you got toe black lives arrested. i think it was rnk. iny smnd shoild xiv been looking at this guy. and as the commissioner vad today, who is he...