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Peace. protests. >> these are not organized peaceful protests. >> yes they are the aclu is a coalition of organizations national. >> removed from the situation. >> hold on. let me ask you this nomiki. is it okay to yell what do we want dead cops? when dewe want it now. >> that's extremist situation. >> no it's not. jesse jackson and al sharpton speaking out against it. >> jesse jackson and al sharpton don't get along that's very inoperable argument to make. >> you don't have the president speaking out against those kind of comments. have you silence from the president right now who has sat the...

Those presses. those protests were caused by the nypd and their treatment of eric garager. why are you blaming bill de blasio for it. >> wait a minute. first of all, de blasio created an environment here when he brought on al sharpton as one of his top advisors on race. a lot of people in the city which i live new york, they are saying that al sharpton is actually the de facto mayor. that is responsibility right there. secondly, when watergate happened. nixon did not order the break-in. what was argued was that nixon created a context, environment. atmosphere where the break-in was considered ...

Is that what you are suggesting? >> no what i am i'm suggest something what bill bratton said to the today show on monday where he said the deaths of those two officers are a direct i'm quoting here, a direct spinoff of the protest. >> okay. so that's not -- and that's bill de blasio's fault the protests are bill de blasio's fault? the protests are the result of -- hold on. >> al sharp top and some of the other people who have made race a big issue in new york and pointed a financinger. >> race is a big issue. >> bill de blasio said is i talked to my son daunt at a to make sure he is not hustl...

Followed in a department store. bill de blasio said he talks to his own son, a son of color, a young man of color about being treated properly by the nypd. al sharpton, you know, the history of al sharpton. race in america, can race in america get better if these leaders continue to talk the way they talk? >> well, look, i don't think there's anything wrong with what -- if someone says here's how i talk with my son of a mixed race. but i do think if you are going to say that, which leaves the impression that there is something inherently racist about the police, you ought to then follow that b...

We're equals. >> i have to answer your question. i know you don't want to talk about sharpton and others, but you have to look and see who the people in power, in power, you have president obama, who i regard as -- his jeremiah wright is al sharpton. de blasio brings to the head of the table to be the co-adviser to him on police and other matters al sharpton. this is empowering demagogues. >> if you take away sharpton and jackson, don't you think that at their core, at the progressive core of barack obama eric holder lies this same belief. aren't they race baiting? >> that's exactly my point. ...