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Rates, broaden base, lower rates, give the middle class a tax rate. cut the corporate rate, do any, positive for economic growth and less positive if they expire. if you are expenses a year, go back and look at u.s. history often in recessions put in expensing for a year to try to simulate the economy. when expensing skyrs it can have a short run stimulus because people try to buy capital before the thing goes away. for the most part permanent tax cuts are far more impactful than things that expire. go back, look at the obama administration, here during the great recession they extended bush t...

Rates, lower rates, get the middle class a tax cut. if you cut the corporate rate, if you do any of those things they're positive for tax growth. if you have expanse, you look at u.s. history in recessions, they'll put in expensing to stimulate the economy. when expensing expires, it's short term. for the most part, permanent tax cut are far more impactful. if you look at the obama administration when they were here during the great recession, they extended the bush tax cuts because they understood this. >> i want to follow up on that. you made a value judgment to makes the tax cuts permanent ...

Question is it bad? what do you mean by that? >> well, i don't think anybody thinks it's existential threat to the planet who is seriously looking at this problem from an academic perspective. climate has always changed. whether warming is extrip sickly good or bad, that's a value judgment. there is a lot of uncertainty about what might happen, what are the impacts and whether they are bad or good. whether they are bad or good is fundamentally a value judgment. and some regions might benefit and some might be harmed. i mean, that's just part of the way weather and climate works. >> tucker: are...

What do you mean by that? >> well, i don't think anybody thinks it's existential threat to the planet who is seriously looking at this problem from an academic perspective. climate has always changed. whether warming is extrip sickly good or bad, that's a value judgment. there is a lot of uncertainty about what might happen, what are the impacts and whether they are bad or good. whether they are bad or good is fundamentally a value judgment. and some regions might benefit and some might be harmed. i mean, that's just part of the way weather and climate works. >> tucker: are you surprised to le...

What do you mean by that? >> well, i don't think anybody thinks it's an existential threat to the planet who is seriously looking at this problem fromhr an academic perspective. climate has always changed. whether warming is intrinsically good or bad, that's a value judgment. there is a lot of uncertainty about what might happen. what are the impacts and whether they are bad or good. whether they are bad or good is fundamentally a value judgment. and some regions might benefit and some might be harmed. i mean, that's just part of the way weather and climate works. >> tucker: are you surprised ...