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Today than you were a year ago or five years ago. >> >> i can't make a value judgment on that. >> you believe he's in pakistan someplace? >> nobody knows where he is. >> nobody has any clue. why is it so hard to find bin laden or his number two, eye han al zawahiri. >> if you look at pakistan's performance, we have picked up more al qaeda people and people associated with al qaeda and taliban than any other country in the world. >> you've done a remarkable job, especially over the last few months. so when you interrogate these al qaeda operatives that you pick up, they don't have a clue, they ...

Is -- she's there to serve the people, not donald trump, per se, make him fire you. i think that's the approach that rod rosenstein has taken, that's why people say that he has a strange calmness about him because he knows he's there to serve the people. so all these stories will come out, and if you have disagreements with trump, tell him in the oval office, and if he doesn't like your performance, let him fire you. don't resign because we need good people who will stand up for the laws of this nation to the president and for everyone else. >> eric, let me ask you, let me ask you about this, ...

Willing to defend him despite -- to juana's point would have to be concerns based on what you know. either he's the least curious person on earth about this or didn't care to pay attention. >> seems obvious he would have been fired about this yet he's sort of pushing it off on the personnel office. >> absolutely. that's the point here, this is something that came to him -- we found out that people in the white house, including kelly, knew about this. chris is absolutely right. they made a value judgment, decided not to look into this because porter was valuable, because he was someone that kel...

Like manafort, potentially like jared kushner, potentially like donald trump. people who have leverage and he's trying to use that leverage. at the end of the day, the trump people could say we were just being used, we were just duped. donald trump was running for president of the united states, the people around him should know better. and they essentially put themselves in a position to be used and all this other stuff that they do about ethics, where they say you're not going to see our tax returns, you're not going to see who we're doing business with, we're going to keep doing business wi...

Speak would be really bad there is an election in 11 days. lordy, that would be really bad. concealing in my view would be catastrophic. not just to the fbi, but well beyond. >> but what if the decision wasn't to speak or to conceal? what if the decision was to speak or not speak? because when you use the word "conceal" you are strongly implying a value judgment that says concealment is a bad thing. but concealment or not speaking is what the fbi does all the tile about its investigations. all the time. later in his answer, director comey issued a challenge to everyone who might disagree with ...