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California because the weather is lottery. >> hold on, let's go-- adam, i do want to say, adam that charlie brought up a great point particularly in this case because this particular proposal is punitive and listen, we're going to tax all kinds of benefits from, you know, distribution of medicare benefitses, stock options benefits and we're going after something that people have earned and it is punitive. >> i'll handle it, he made a great point in your opinion, charles, you call it punitive. the technical expression is progressive. and i'm not making a value judgment. there's a difference bet...

Are not eating out. they are shopping less. as evidenced by lauren sales and macy sales. you mention priceline, people are not traveling. we see evidence that the consumer, these are all companies that republic the american and the global consumers an cutting back. even when we are supposed to be in a recovery. >>stuart: can you make a value judgment and say we are on track to recession? or simply more evidence of slowing down? >>guest: we are a consumer-oriented society. the retail industry is crucial to our advancement out of this bad economic time. right now, we are getting evidence by mcdo...

But an examination of bain does. and let me give you one example, joe. amped. $100 million in profit, lots of people lost jobs. but they also lost a good portion of their pension and health care did. it ever occur to anybody, governor romney or anybody else that, maybe we take $80 million in profit and leave $20 million so these folks can have their pensions and health care? i think that's a value judgment. >> that is a value judgment. >> that's a value judgment. and i think it's legitimate. >> and i think it's very legitimate for opponents, mike barnicle, to say for what mitt romney was doing...

Things about. it ain't bean bag. you have to mix it up. if romney wants to change the subject, the president gets to talk about bain. >> there's a fine line where people aren't trying to ding capitalism and not look as if they're trying to vilify the free market. ed rendell raised a really good point this morning on "morning joe" that i wanted everybody to hear. take a listen. >> addpad, 350 men and women lost their jobs. $100 million in profit. and maybe that's inevitable. but they also lost a good portion of their pension and their health care. now, did it ever occur to anybody -- governor r...

$3.86 a gallon, secretary chu gives himself an "a." let's bring in stuart varney. stuart, you know, i guess when you are asked to grade yourself you are going to be pretty liberal. some folks believe that he was with that estimate. what say you? >> reporter: i those took a liberty. to 5 yourself a higher than a minus grade when the price has doubled. that's a stretch. but that's a value judgment on my part. gas prices went up another 2 cents overnight to a national average of $3.86. that was a surprise. a lot of people who talk of the industry, they just don't believe the numbers. the energy d...