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The van nockers appealed that denial. that appeal was denied again. they appealed it a second time. this time paul actually went to health america, pled his case, health america sent the file out to an independent, outside reviewer. the committee heard from kyler's doctor. they got a report back from their outside reviewer, and their outside reviewer actually said there was medical literature to support the use of this treatment for a patient like kyler in kyler's condition with his prognosis. the committee then denied it again, sent a letter to the van nockers saying, you know what, we've den...

Health america coventary, what was the reason it gave for not covering the cost of this? >> they deemed the treatment to be experimental. >> didn't they -- isn't it not in many respects the same kind of experimental not fda approved treatment that they approved previously that just happened to cost a little less? >> as far as we can tell, yes, sir. we've asked them and didn't get much response. >> david, we read your complaint today. it sounds like, you know, to use this awful phrase there literally are, in fact, death panels. complaint review committees that decided, sorry. this 5-year-old bo...

Their outside reviewer actually said there was medical literature to support the use of this treatment for a patient like kyler in kyler's condition with his prognosis. the committee then denied it again, sent a letter to the van nockers saying you know what? we denied it again. and our decision this time is final and the only thing you can do is file a lawsuit. that's what we did. >> paul, if you had any time during all of this to follow this health care debate at all, what did you think when you heard people were criticizing the prospects of health care reform talking about these death panel...

This time paul actually went to health america, pled his case, health america sent the file out to an independent, outside reviewer. the committee heard from kyler's doctor. they got a report back from their outside reviewer, and their outside reviewer actually said there was medical literature to support the use of this treatment for a patient like kyler in kyler's condition with his prognosis. the committee then denied it again, sent a letter to the van nockers saying you know what? we denied it again. and our decision this time is final and the only thing you can do is file a lawsuit. that'...

Treatment that they approved previously that just happened to cost a little less? >> as far as we can tell, yes, sir. we've asked them and didn't get much response. >> david, we read your complaint today. it sounds like, you know, to use this awful phrase there literally are, in fact, death panels. complaint review committees that decided, sorry. this 5-year-old boy can't have the one drug that'll save his life. can you explain how that worked? >> sure. basically what happens was the doctor submitted a request for this treatment. it was reviewed by one physician at coventry. they denied it. th...