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To tiptoe around him but to go through him. to try to hit him head on saying that from the experience that he's had knowing him for 22 years the experience of running against him and not fearing well in 2016 and then really helping him a lot during his presidency. >> hoping trump ally. >> yes, helping trump la. then as erin said, tonight, you heard the terms that he knew that we get under donald trump's skin. loser, loser, loser, child, vanity run a mark, those kinds of things were clearly deliberate in order to try to egg donald trump on. not just tear him down, which is his primary goal but ...

Either they win or we win. >> we win. >> and if we win, we no longer have a country. >> if the election were today ron desantis would win in new hampshire, there is no doubt about that in my mind. >> many of them don't believe they are going to be the nominee, that they are not going to be the president, they shouldn't run just as a vanity run. i think we ought to narrow the field. >> bret: larry hogan former governor of maryland. someone who may be running the governor the florida out in california talking about his legislative successes. >> i may have earned 50% of the vote but i earned 100 ...

And dr. oz comes from a history in television in which he promoted quackery. a significant portion of his shows were not evidence based, but he did it for years and the institutions that aired his disinformation empowered him, and now he's taking that to the political realm and if dr. oz becomes the governor of pennsylvania and decides to work hand in glove with the pennsylvania legislature to disenfranchise the voters of that state, the commonwealth of pennsylvania, and continue trumpism in a very robust form, it's dangerous, and it's a threat to democracy. you know, it's not just only a vani...

>> talking points come from right here, right out of here. boom. and paul himself says he's not going to win. so you come on. wayne carlson... >> i'm not sure who "we" is, but he assures president obama of a re-election. it's a vanity run, which is what it would be, would give mr. obam four more years to expand the government because that's what he's going to do. so it will be interesting to see rong paul explain any third-party ventush. julie from highland village, texas... >> what do you want insane cloud

>> talking points come from right here, right out of here. boom. and paul himself says he's not going to win. so you come on. wayne carlson... >> i'm not sure who "we" is, but he assures president obama of a re-election. it's a vanity run, which is what it would be, would give mr. obam four more years to expand the government because that's what he's going to do. so it will be interesting to see rong paul explain any third-party ventush. julie from highland village, texas... >> what do you want insane cloud