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On what his decision would be on the deadline to certify the agreement. take a listen. >> we'll see if i do what some people expect, whether or not it will be possible to do a new deal with solid foundations. because this is a deal with decayed foundations. >> is he laying the groundwork for staying in the deal? how do you interpret that? >> we've heard this kind of vas illation and these threats and then pulling back time and time again from donald trump. i would just highlight one material difference this time around, jake. i talk to rex tillerson in this book, he's one of the many secretari...

I don't think he's racist. i think he's ill advised and an opportunityist and what he is doing is politically motivated. his vas illation from one position to another indicates that he never established a set of core values that guides his thinking and a -- a moral campus. so that vas illation for me is him being tossed back and forth between opinions that surround him. >> pastor a.r. bernard who leads a highly influenceal church in brooklyn is the only member of the evangelical advise board to quit over the fatal violence in charlottesville last week. in quitting, the pastor joined the ceos o...