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The alt right, with white nationalists, with neo-nazis or the kkk, and yet, sadly, that great place is going to be tied at least in our memory at least for some time with those awful causes. >> no. i mean, anyone who knows charlottesville, it's a small liberal college town. so it's very steeped in history, though, so there are the statues. i can see this disagreement happening, but to keep hearing charlottesville, it's very jarring to me, every time i hear it because no one really talks about it in that way. and just hearing about it, this small town being on the map like this, it's incredible...

At least in our memory at least for some time with those awful causes. >> no. i mean, anyone who knows charlottesville, it's a small liberal college town. so it's very steeped in history, though, so there are the statues. i can see this disagreement happening, but to keep hearing charlottesville, it's very jarring to me, every time i hear it because no one really talks about it in that way. and just hearing about it, this small town being on the map like this, it's incredible. >> anita, five blocks from here the president is in new york. >> right. >> his first night as president in the place, ...

The president is in new york. >> right. >> his first night as president in the place, the steel and glass tower, the triplex he calls home in trump tower, and yet you see the sand-filled dump trucks at the entrance. that's a relatively new secret service vehicle control method. and yet because of his own doing, the crowds are larger, the crowds are louder than they were during the campaign. >> right. i mean, he did come out and have a do-over, if you will, today, and he said what he needed to say. but the question is, it took so long, is that still going to hurt him? is it too late? he also di...