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Campaigning. the anti-vax crowd might be a danger. falling back on the virus will get a vote, and this will dictate what happens going forward. >> yep. and as we know, it does feel as if there's a pattern, and if this seasonal pattern continues, what happens when the summer surge hurts and what happens to our political debate about covid if, indeed, a summer surge comes like the last two? kelly o'donnell, mark caputo, thanks for getting us started on this mix of covid and the midterms. joining me is colorado's governor, one of the most prominent and few democrats to declare the end to the pand...

Have any kind of chance. jon: looks like it is going to be a horse race, maybe a photo finish between governor romney and newt gingrich especially with this gingrich endorsement today by rick perry. much has been made, we talk about it on this channel all the time of south carolina's record picking the person who vent lay goes on to win the republican nomination. what do the voters there actually think about that record? >> i spoke to a couple of people about this yesterday at a romney event. they told me that really don't worry about that. that does not affect the way they're going to vote on...