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Going to be a rigorous schedule and north korea issue is really looming over all the conversations. leland: hitting 5 different countries, 12 days. originally two trips, the first trip abroad that included saudi arabia, the visit to israel and then through europe for the nato conference and there was a point where even his national security advisers said the president was just really worn out and that's one of the things that his staff have been talking about in preparing for this trip, how to make sure he gets enough rest because as we have seen over the past nine months that he has been pres...

Those are the two triggers. let's not over play it, i think we'll see our intelligence chiefs defer a little bit and say there's an active investigation, we'll defer on issues. >> before we go, you've done hearings like this how to approach the subject when the witnesses don't want to talk about it, what do you expect to see. >> i think verb tense is very important. they'll look for witnesses say, that justice has not been, all that the investigation is still proceeding. the question, did he try to stop the investigation? that's what people need to be looking for tomorrow. >> please stick arou...

And democrats are going to try very hard. this is true comey questioning, as well. and, listen, how much do our intelligence officials defer and say there's an active investigation. at the end of the day, though, all of this is going to lead to getting the president of the united states under oath and democrats taking the house. those are the two triggers. let's not over play it, i think we'll see our intelligence chiefs defer a little bit and say there's an active investigation, we'll defer on issues. >> before we go, you've done hearings like this how to approach the subject when the witness...

Trump is not under investigation, but maybe the trump campaign is. >> yeah. >> and the trump associates in the campaign are involved, and yet we sort of blur together, and he's playing the definition of is, and we're doing a different thing. >> he even used the same verb tense as bill clinton back there when clinton said there is no relationship. there was a moment where he said that about there is no connection between the -- there is no collusion between trump and -- >> he says that he sent a letter off to -- he doesn't name the law firm. i was curious what the law firm was, but that a law f...

Something to stop this. >> the thing that is also unique about donald trump is that he's not trying to win the confidence of people who don't like him. so, everybody who is offended by the conflicts or potential conflicts that doesn't like donald trump, he doesn't care. in fact, the people who do like donald trump, i believe, find it appealing that he is conflicted and that the people who are offended, yeah, of course, please offend the fancy dressed people in mid-town and san francisco with their conflicts. >> you've watched him closely for a long time. what is the chance that instead of does...