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>> are you comfortable with the verification program which is basically we don't know what it is but iaea and iran have a deal we can't verify or supervise. they send a soil sample. i'd go to arizona and get soil and send it to them. how will they know? >> you're smarter than the average guy. we're not interested in the iaea so much, that's their deal with iran. we have deal with iran that requires for the existing nuclear facilities we can check them. we're talking 24 days. >> 24 days. >> right. that is for facilities that have not been used for nuclear development so far. that's the maximum,...

>> are you comfortable with the verification program which is basically we don't know what it is but iaea and iran have a deal we can't verify or supervise. they send a soil sample. i'd go to arizona and get soil and send it to them. how will they know? >> you're smarter than the average guy. we're not interested in the iaea so much, that's their deal with iran. we have deal with iran that requires for the existing nuclear facilities we can check them. we're talking 24 days. >> 24 days. >> right. that is for facilities that have not been used for nuclear development so far. that's the maximum,...

You better be ready not to make any concessions until they deliver the goods. i would want to make sure there was a verification program in place, that we actually began the verification program and knew they were going to let us go inspect these facilities. then when we got to that point we felt they were really delivering, we could start talking about reducing the sanctions. this is not a function of whatever happened in syria, i think this is a function of the sanctions. >> do you believe there is a real difference? do you think this is a significant change? >> i think these are very promis...

Denuclearization -- remember, the administration talked about complete, verifyable, irreversible denuclearization, now they're saying complete denuclearization. the question of what will the u.s. have to give to get that. when the north koreans say they expected the u.s. to bring constructive measure to build confidence, it seems like what they're going to there. >> well, that seems to be the real challenge, exactly determining what that verification regime will look like, how intrusive inspections will be, what the north koreans would have to produce. arms experts long said any real agreement...

The concessions made, but you can end the war and the armistice and move towards the pastry officially. we can agree to bring the families from the north and self together that were separated from the war. we can agree in principle to have security on the peninsula. those are easy ones. the tough one is getting into what do they mean by denuclearization. >> one of the primary critiques of the iran plan it is difficult to have real knowledge or verification about what is happening, key sticking point if you don't have the verification program the treaty of the agreement is not worth the paper i...