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They're the ones that shut the door and now we have to do something. >> is a nuclear capable iran as dangerous. >> weapons are dangerous. potentially is troubling, too. >> are they capable, too? >> that's an issue upon which intelligence services still differ. our goal is to from prevent them from having luke lar weapons. >> i'm saying it's our ask judgment they're not nuclear capable. >> they neert nuclear capable. is that just as dangerous as being a nuclear state in your mind? >> only in this respect. how you differentiate. how far have they gone? if their policy is to go to the threshold, ...

It they didn't cooperate, they're the ones that shut the door and now we have to do something. >> is a nuclear capable iran as dangerous. >> weapons are dangerous. potentially is troubling, too. >> are they capable, too? >> that's an issue upon which intelligence services still differ. our goal is to from prevent them from having luke lar weapons. >> i'm saying it's our ask judgment they're not nuclear capable. >> they neert nuclear capable. is that just as dangerous as being a nuclear state in your mind? >> only in this respect. how you differentiate. how far have they gone? if their policy i...

>> not yet. >> and is that just as dangerous as being a nuclear state in your mind? >> only in this respect. how you differentiate. how far have they gone? if their policy is to go to the threshold, but not assemble a nuclear weapon, how do you tell that they have not assembled? it becomes a serious verification question, and i don't actually know how you would verify that. they are continuing to make progress on these programs. it's going slower than they anticipated, but they are moving in that direction. >> we've been talking about our foes. i want to talk about our friends. i think america...