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Conventional tactics to more guerilla tactics where you have the government even telling people to prepare molotov cocktails. so it will be very telling how this battle for kyiv unfolds. just to pick up one thing that leeann was talking about about arming the ukrainian military, i think that will become a difficult issue for the white house potentially. there are lawmakers who say that more should be done now and a lot of nato members are also saying that. >> dan de luce live for us in the washington newsroom. dan, thank you. leeann, thank you as well. we have new information from the presid...

We just turned that around from our crews who are posted up in the capital city of ukraine, and that is what is has been like over the last several hours, the sirens going off, as we understand, from sources that we're talking to, that russian troops are moving closer and closer to the capital. you can see this map there, where we know there are confirmed attacks, where we know that russian troops are amassing, again based on the best reporting that we have, as of 5:49 eastern time, this morning, as all of this unfolds, it's not just members of the media obviously working to get information fr...

Important, and you and i both know, from covering the previous administration as well, there were questions raised about the validity of nato itself, and real world events are testing that. and showing this alliance. and sort of renewing its place in the world in very real terms. >> as you were talking, and putting this into such clear context for us, we have gotten word now from the official telegram channel, the city of kyiv, about the information that basically folks in the strict district here are asked to be staying inside right now. so there does continue to be this shelter in place mand...

Sense. so the issue, i think, just tactically speaking for the russians, aside from whether they're being straight with us and lots of doubts about that, but aside from that, there is a question of whether there is problems with what they say is their objective. which is to put in a different government but not stay and that is extremely challenging. >> before i let you go, can you pull back the curtain a little bit on the reporting process there for you in moscow, right? you are the tip of spear for nbc news on getting information, as much as we can from the russian government, and there was ...

Government. and when you're into the major urban areas and the capital city, that is a necessary piece of that. when you're also seeing this urban center, it also makes me concerned for americans who do live in ukraine, who may, who have made their lives there, who have maybe not gotten out, and i'm not talking about diplomats, those are all removed from the country, but the people who for their own reasons had lived there, and people who have families who are connected there. so when it comes to the cities, when you talked to matt bradley and he said there had been this expression of denial, ...