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Full legal endporsment of a congressional subpoena like this does take time. if it becomes a matter of criminal prosecutions for defying that subpoena, we can be talking about years. >> well, the civil litigation took us years. it took us almost two years to get don mcgahn's testimony finally. >> the way of prosecution, i think has a different impact on witnesses and you are right. it can take even a long time to prosecute a criminal case but you prosecute one criminal case and every other witness looks at that and says the department of justice is serious that congress is serious. i better co...

It's hard to think a constitutional rights that's more time sensitive and intimate than the ability to decide whether or not to continue a pregnancy. i am so glad that we are hearing this story from doctors and some of the briefing in the u.s. verses texas case, you hear some of the stories of patients who have been looking to get care during this period. this law is unconscionable in the way it treats women from texas. it's isolated. it separates pregnant women from their family and friends and resources they could talk to about their pregnancy. why? because it puts all those people into sign...

Federal appeals court reverts that decision and allowed the texas law to remain in effect. the legal fight has quote, "created devastation and chaos in texas where patients were given a glimmer of hope before their appointments began getting cancelled. it's hard on staff and providers and patients to have this whiplash. it's destabilizing and dehumanizing and it should not happen. the american medical association and along with other medical an sanitations filed a brief in the case written by our next guest. the texas abortion law not only endangered the health and well-being of our

The differences the courts have given on the state on this issue. >> let's listen to dr. jermish about her experience with one patient. >> the first patient who i saw after the law went into effect, we could see cardiac activity, she curled up in a ball on a table and started sobbing. she asked me if she can hold my hand. that was all i can do for her in that moment. she was a college student and birth control failure. she was a person who was not in a situation where she could be pregnant. >> will the appeals court recognize the timing urgency in a case like that when stories like that are be...