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officials including the michigan attorney general. the fbi says the suspect is a member of the so-called sovereign citizens movement. that's a self-declared independent nation that claims that they are immune from u.s. loss. and a really frightening episode in the sky, turbulence so severe on a lufthansa flight from texas to germany that passengers said that it felt like going over the top of a roller coaster. this event was not because of bad weather. the skies were clear. is climate change causing more turbulence? okay. we have a lot to discuss tonight, so let me bring in john mi...

I don't know what to make of that, john. >> well, in version a, he's got a chance, and he's in convincing mode. in version b he doesn't have to act for anybody because the game is over. >> it's done. >> yeah. >> was it a mistake for him to take the stand, for them to put him on the stand? >> you know what, alisyn, what happened is i don't think they had a choice. obviously we all have choices, and defense attorneys don't like putting clients on the stand. because then the case is not about reasonable doubt, it's about whether they believe your client. to my point about why they may not have ha...