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Was going to prevail, democracies versus autocracies, freedom versus tyranny. is that something he's talked about a lot before? >> yeah, this is an emerging, anderson, as a real theme of his presidency. it begins all the way with his inaugural address when he says we've been reminded democracy is fragile, democracy is precious. he was talking at the about january 6th. in the last four weeks this has really come into the global stage. he now see this is war in ukraine as an attack not only on the people of ukraine but on the concept of democracy, as a governing philosophy. he now talks about th...

Situation room, and go through the threats and make the tough calls. the president was defiant, defend the broader decision to end 20 years of the war. president trump had made the deal with the taliban, he was faced with the decision of expanding our military presence and withdrawing. he already was inclined to withdraw from the start, and he got into the difficult, chaotic, tragic scenes. he acknowledged it was a flawed assumption to believe that afghan government would hold up for a few more weeks to provide a more, let's say, efficient withdrawal from afghanistan but he talked about the fa...

Guardrails to set what they want, which is a more stable and predictable relationship. here i'm using their words on this after the first very tense six months of their ties with russia being strained. and, as you know, overall, i think the biden administration has made it very clear, they view all world affairs at this point as a matter of democracy, versus autocracies. china would be number one on that list. but, you know, russia has the power in terms of distracting and disrupting everything from the hacking to involvement in middle east peace deals. you know, aid to iran, to syria. even in...

Set a tone about how important it is for the united states when it comes to human rights in places like belarus, as well as dissident figures like navalny in russian custody? >> 100%, ayman, he should bring it up. and he will bring it up in the context that he's framed it already. we're at a hinge point in history between counties embracing democracy versus autocracies. and he said that democracies have to combine to show that we can deal with the biggest problems of our time. i would point to belarus and say, are they doing a good job dealing with these issues? i don't think so. biden will br...

It's true. he checks his privilege every day. he's genuinely interested in people different from him, who live differently from the way he does. that includes oppressed people. he was excited to be in myanmar, where democracy is never fully at its best, but he was excited to be there at a time when it was starting to open up, and information was flowing, society was opening up. it's just -- it's been very heartbreaking, especially for these people there, and obviously for our danny. >> and it's -- as i mentioned, it takes a certain type of journalist with a lot of courage to go to a place like...