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This is a plan that's going to be rolled out, have the kinds of components i mentioned, may a new hires tax credit, maybe something for the manufacturing. >> will the american people be impressed? will they smell the construction? will they imagine the shovels coming or the yans? or will they think more sundry items, unemployment compensation or say more blah blah blah? what's your hunch? >> that's a fair question. i think if the president pivots to a kind of resonant ideas like -- by the way, six america schools today fast, i know it's something that the white house is talking about. it's got...

>> the president will continue to talk about what he's talked about so far, extending the payroll tax holiday. that's important. that's already in the system. if you do that, and you absolutely should, it keeps your foot on the accelerator, to let that stuff expire, as it's schedule to do do at the end of the year, that takes your foot off. >> so he's going to get payroll taxes down, and he's going to make sure the dollars go out. what does he do to create jobs? >> there's the infrastructure program. the president has talked about this idea of an infrastructure bank. not exactly the most reson...

Relationship as in previous administration this is the way he's still talking about compromise. let's listen. >> there's something we can help on, but frankly we can do more if we have congress's cooperation. those are proposals that historically have had support from republicans and democrats. eisenhower build the highway system. last time i checked he was a popular president. this is what i mean by politics getting in the way. you can't bring an attitude that says i would rather see my opponent lose than america win. you can't have that attitude. >> i don't know. >> well, here's my view of i...