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Nobody around and everybody has to give him credit? >> yeah. >> for the economy. the indices he's looking at what he believes it happening with the economy right now on the heels of the tax bill. he sees this despite the peak surrounding the trade decision for him, that feeds that narrative with his base. so he's out there doing what he thinks he needs to do to keep the universe centered right around that sun. >> but this is different because you see republicans were holding fire to some extent because they still thought ed change his mind. clearly with gary cohn gone, they're not changing h...

Usually in the real world of politics, they used to say, well, jimmy's leaving but joe's coming or mary's coming. there will be a new economic adviser to the president. this guy leaves an empty chair literally. you can't tell me that's organized. is it. >> it's not. i don't know jimmy, joe or mary but i know gary. gary cohn is a process guy. in january after tax reform got done, he went to the president and he went to general kelly and said, i'm only working at 20% capacity. i need something to do here. i can do more. he said to the president, i'm ready for a cabinet level position. i want to ...

Because he's there specifically to work on issues of economics relating to trade. if he cannot get the president's attention, you said before he's leaving over policy. he's leaving over process. the president made this big plan about the tariffs and did not have the white house legal team signing off. he said this was an issue of national security. the white house legal team has not approved that. people are going, well, trump goes i like when there's two different opinions wilbur ross versus gary. this is still president trump versus his own white house counsel. he didn't have clearance. for ...