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Erosion in the poll numbers as president obama's approval rating at 50% and there will still be more time and right now there doesn't seem to be any type of damage to his standing at least from these polls so far. >> you and the first team bring up is this a scandal or bureaucratic incompetency and right now jay carney made the comment in the daily briefing that says that no one in the white house intervened in the then ongoing investigation into irs targeting of conservative groups. i just got a copy of that, and you heard peter allude to that today, but you bring up a big question in all of ...

Public's trust in the government when you are the party in charge of the executive branch and when you're the party that wants to do big thing with the government and even though it's not a completely fair characterization and we're talking about millions of federal employees and there were some people who were screwing up from time to time, but that is the one danger, particularly if this story doesn't reach the scandal level and doesn't have president obama's finishinger points on it. >> i want to read you something that you first highlighted reading by joel klein in the "time" magazine, it ...

These civil servants who serve under all of the administrations, republican and democrat and sometimes there's a divide because the politicals talk to the politicals and the careers talk to careers and that creates problems down the road. tamron, i would argue we're talking about distrust in government, et cetera, there have been many examples where the government stepped up. we saw with the boston bell onnedings and so with the rebuilding of hurricane sandy and the question is is this irs isolated in bureaucratic mismanagement. if that is, i'm not sure it would last a week or so. then we'll e...