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One? or what? >> i didn't buy the argument. it's basically saying the government is fully funding two things and somehow, that's competition. if you take the time to explain that to people, they get it. it's speculation to think that 20, 30, 40 years from now, that might somehow drive down the costs. and what i was telling republican freshmen, it's just like look, let's keep it simple. we can cut $450 million today -- from a program that i consider wasteful and one you can go back to your constituents this weekend and say i cut $450 million from the budget today, and that was really what we tr...

You might not like the first one? or what? >> i didn't buy the argument. it's basically saying the government is fully funding two things and somehow, that's competition. if you take the time to explain that to people, they get it. it's speculation to think that 20, 30, 40 years from now, that might somehow drive down the costs. and what i was telling republican freshmen, it's just like look, let's keep it simple. we can cut $450 million today -- from a program that i consider wasteful and one you can go back to your constituents this weekend and say i cut $450 million from the budget today, a...

Why buy two loaves of bread when you need one? >> i didn't buy the argument. it's basically saying the government is fully funding two things and somehow, that's competition. if you take the time to explain that to people, they get it. it's speculation to think that somehow might drive down the costs. what i was telling republican freshman, look, let's keep it simple. we can cut $450 million today -- and say i cut $450 million from the budget today and that was what we tried to do. keep it simple. take out the arguments of what jobs are in what districts and ge versus pratt. this is something ...