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Is a value of judgment. i had to determine cost versus worth. how much is this costing me to continue in this relationship and how much is it worth? is it worth that time and effort. it took me 40 years to build my credibility. that goes away in four or eight years if it was that long. >> not outright saying charolettesville was a last straw for him but why are other evangelical leaders stalg on? first, i know pastor a.r. bernard. when he joined the pastoral panel, i asked him, why the hell are you aligning with this guy? he's a long-time republican. i understand that. but we knew how donald t...

That's the window through which we see the world. there was hope in. after a while, you have to make a decision. every decision is a value of judgment. i had to determine cost versus worth. how much is this costing know continue in this relationship and how much is it worth? is it worth that time, effort, and it took me 40 years to build my credibility, and my reputation. and that goes away in four or eight years if it lasts that long. >> yeah. and lastly, are you concerned that the president of the united states harbors racist views? >> no. i will tell you that i have had opportunity to know ...

>> i want to fold into this discussion, the departure from trump's evangelical board. reverend bernhard is a senior pastor at the christian cultural center, not too far from where we are at 30 rock, located in brooklyn. here's what he told my leagcolle earlier. >> there was hope. as a christian, we're thinking hope, we're thinking redemption. that is the window through which we see the world and there was hope there. but after a while, you have to make a decision. every decision you make in life is a value judgment and i had to determine cost versus worth. how much is this costing me to contin...