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To rewrite this immigration debate. >> where have we seen that before. peter alexander. thank you so much. i want to go to my panel. this is a professor at the university of texas. jess mcintosh, executive editor of share blue. evan siegfried is a republican strategist. victoria, is this call to abolish or change i.c.e. going to help or hurt the democratic party? >> it's going to help the republican party. if we go back to the trump campaign, two of the pillars of his campaign were immigration restriction and shoring up police support. so you combine those two and that is the winning combinati...

Felonies. they're going to jail. if they are undocumented, they're likely being deported right after they finish their sentence. what we're not interested in doing is doing the work of federal immigration authorities to go hunt down people whether at a grocery store, at a child's school or at a place of worship. what we're trying to do is make sure that we allow our police officers and our sheriffs to do their work so they can gain the cooperation and the confidence of the people that they can report crime as witnesses, report crime as victims. we want that relationship to continue. everything...

Positions jeff just mentioned. and executive orders that will also remove catch and release allowing undocumented residents to remain in the u.s. without deporting them. the orders will triple the resources for i.c.e. enforcement and removal. they will also end sanctuary cities or funding for sanctuary cities that bar police authorities from cooperating with immigration authorities. and they will add 5,000 custom border patrol officers. and a second order, suspended acceptance of all refugees for four months to gauge which countries pose the lowest risk for national security. we expect to get ...

You could buy a bunch of first-class tickets and send everybody back home. so this has become a huge political fight, and i think most people would say, where is the focus on what's really at stake here? how are we going to deal with this crisis? and what's become clear is that the president's request is already setting up for a huge fight and that this whole question of will he go to the border or won't he and the white house continues to insist he absolutely will not is overshadowing what really is a search for answers that we don't have right now, ari. >> chris jansing reporting from dallas...