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I think you have to take it out of the buildings' hands. i don't mean that in any way as a condemnation. i am aware that the board represents part of the victim base here as well. as you well know, i'm not asking these questions just for me. these are what the families of those who are still in that pile that they're going through, they're going to want to know. and the idea of $15 million in repairs, help me understand that is something not as shocking as the price tag, that they got letters in april saying we need a lot of heavy repairs, it's going to be $15 million. that's a major assessmen...

A condemnation. i am aware that the board represents part of the victim base here as well. as you well know, i'm not asking these questions just for me. these are what the families of those who are still in that pile that they're going through, they're going to want to know. and the idea of $15 million in repairs, help me understand that is something not as shocking as the price tag, that they got letters in april saying we need a lot of heavy repairs, it's going to be $15 million. that's a major assessment. why isn't that proof you had major problems with the building? >> first of all, let me...

Populations. the amazing thing most folks don't understand, the manchester community in houston, texas. you can go and touch the plants and piping that's right there. it's amazing if most folks knew that existed, they'd be dismayed and they would be very disenheartened at our country. >> is part of the issue that developers are not prevented from creating housing, including public housing that's literally right on top of these chemical plants? >> exactly. the zoning issues are huge. the planning issues are huge and unfortunately with more storms coming, more intense storms, folks are going to ...

Talk about as though this is an outbirth of islam. >> no, this is a cult. islam has had five different cults in its history. in 644. in the 11th century. and then this one who seized the grand mosque in mecca in 1979 and those survivors went into al qaeda. this ideology is so unislamic it's anti-islamic. they consider the muslim world their victim base. >> malcolm nans is going to be with us next back on the program. next, the surgeance of guns. so jill, i know the markets have taken a hit lately. mmm hmm.

They're a cult -- and take that out on the other 1.5 billion muslims by, you know, limiting immigration and all of the other rhetoric that we're hearing these days. and we are playing into their hand. it is terrible that -- >> and i think the ultimate -- tell me if i'm right here, and i think the purpose of that is to destabilize, discredit all moderate forces in the arab and islamic world. >> absolutely. you're absolutely correct. their goal is the elimination of traditional islam. they're actually an existential threat to islam itself. most muslims have nothing to do with this. they don't ev...