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Only $6,000 per year for me to go to college. well, four-year degree, $24,000 it cost me, taxpayers had to pay for it. and it cost $30,000 to keep me in jail for nine months. and now, of course, afterwards, i did not engage in criminal activity, victimize citizens, and i think i'm a pretty good taxpayer myself, helping to offset some of the taxes. >> larry: you talk about rehabilitate. that presumes they were once habilitated to be rehabilitated. maybe that's the wrong word. >> i believe anyone who has a right mind and retains that right mind has the ability for rehabilitation. some with menta...

Activity, victimize citizens, and i think i'm a pretty good taxpayer myself, helping to offset some of the taxes. >> larry: you talk about rehabilitate. that presumes they're habilitated to be rehabilitated. maybe that's the wrong word. >> i believe anyone who has a right mind and retains that riend mind has the ability for rehabilitation. some with mental disorders, i would not suggest they have rehabilitation if it causes them to engage in criminal activity. >> larry: how long have you been doing p.e.e.r.? >> the last year, the last year i initiated that. but my community center in detroit, ...

Thing to do, if you will, because -- >> larry: money. >> that's right, we spend $30,000 on average to house a prisoner for one year. and we spend approximately $12,000 a year for them to go to a major university. to bring that home, when i was a kid and was able to go to college under the affirmative action program, i had no parents. so i had to get taxpayers to pay the grants i received, just as taxpayers paid to house me for nine months in the jail. well, they paid $30,000 to house me in jail for nine months. only $6,000 per year for me to go to college. well, four-year degree, $24,000 it co...

Well, four-year degree, $24,000 it cost me, taxpayers had to pay for it. and it cost $30 to keep me in jail for nine months. and now, of course, afterwards, i did not engage in criminal activity, victimize citizens, and i think i'm a pretty good taxpayer myself, helping to offset some of the taxes. . >> larry: you talk about rehabilitate. that presumes they're habilitated to be rehabilitated. maybe that's the wrong word. >> i believe anyone who has a right mind and retains that riend mind has the ability for rehabilitation. some with mental disorders, i would not suggest they have rehabilitati...