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They were great because we were getting -- really losing ground, when they did finally show up. and all the other agencies that -- that came to -- to assist that -- that day. for those people who -- who continue to say and propagate this lie, whatnot, that it was somebody else. that it was another group. come talk to me. i want to talk to them. i have video proof that what happened there was not a concert. it was not fourth of july. or i -- i work those events and nobody beat me or anybody else. but i do think those who came to capitol -- to the capitol police building -- i mean, to the capito...

For the soul. battle for the soul. inside the democrats' campaign to defeat trump. battle for the soul. inside the democrats' campaigns to defeat trump. best on the book. i want to bring in now cnn commentator and ron brownstein. good evening. you're just putting your glasses on? >> yeah. >> yeah? >> doing a little research reading. >> yeah. he's doing his research up until -- you're like me. cramming for finals. amanda, i just spoke. i hope you saw my interview with the police sergeant, defended the capitol. he is describing the day and republican lawmakers refusing to investigate. >> i hav...

And i had to get them to him or else. >> what did you say? >> you know, i was -- my head was spinning. i was so much in shock, i didn't say much. i listened to him. i think i nodded several times. i don't remember saying anything. >> but michiel oakes, the security, weapons, and hand-to-hand combat expert, the trainer of police s.w.a.t. teams did feel something, he said. >> for six months of 2009 i lived in a perpetual state of fear. >> too afraid even to call the police. >> i didn't have video proof. i didn't have audio proof. i didn't even have a witness. >> and so, according to michiel, he ...

The people who did it are still in the job. they are running lobbyists come on think tanks, defense contractors but no one is ever punished. douglas mcgregor has been warning the public by the futility of what's happening. we have video proof on the way back to 2010. watch this. >> before i let you go, should we be spending a trillionn dollars in the islamic world to import democracy? >> absolutely not. it's a dead end. it's a hopeless endeavor. it's a bottomless pit for our resources. e >> tucker: if only we listen. we didn't. doug mcgregor joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. >> sure. ...

If you orchestrated a orgy of incompetence on this scale you would be in jail. you wouldn't have a job. the people who did it are still in the job. they are running lobbyists come on think tanks, defense contractors but no one is ever punished. douglas mcgregor has been warning the public by the futility of what's happening. we have video proof on the way back to 2010. watch this. >> before i let you go, should we be spending a trillion dollars in the islamic world to import democracy? >> absently not. it's a dead end. it's a hopeless endeavor. it's a bottomless pit for our resources. >> tucke...